Sunday, January 7, 2018

meal seudah - "If there's no Hadran there's no meat"?



I happened to observe a Facebook conversation regarding an upcoming Siyum, ostensibly taking place because someone had put forth great effort to complete a tractate of Talmud, and not because the organizers wanted to eat meat during the Nine Days. The question was asked whether meat would be served, and someone said, "If there's no Hadran there's no meat."



  • Is that correct? That is, does eating meat at a Siyum during the Nine Days require a Hadran?


Furthermore, I wonder:



  • Does Hadran require a minyan (the Siyum-maker apparently assumed so, and was not planning to say the Hadran)? Does the presence of a Minyan obligate a Hadran?

  • Does the presence of a Minyan (with or without a Hadran) obligate a Kaddish?

  • Do Kaddish and Hadran obligate one another (ie., do you need to do both)?

  • And what if there's no Minyan available? Can meat be eaten at such a Siyum during the Nine Days anyway? Can someone make a Siyum with (or even without) a friend or two and then eat meat as part of a Se'udath Mitzvah?





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