Thursday, March 15, 2018

mourning aveilus - Why would someone recite Kaddish D'Rabbanan but not Kaddish Yatom?



Generally, in my experience, the same people recite kaddish d'rabbanan and kaddish yatom in davening. [Kaddish yatom is said after reciting psukim, such as a perek of Tehillim, while kaddish d'rabbanan is said after reading Mishnaic/Talmudic statements.] However, in the morning [teen] minyan i've been going to recently, i've noticed that often the gabbai will ask one of the other adults to say kaddish d'rabbanan but not kaddish yatom. Noone else says either kaddish.
(This is nusach Sefard, so the order at the end of davening (after kaddish shalem) goes shir shel yom, kaddish yatom, ein kelokeinu etc, kaddish d'rabbanan, barchu, aleinu, kaddish yatom.)


What's the difference between the two kaddishes, and why would someone say one but not the other?



Answer



To expand on the previous answer (based on the minhag of the various shuls that I have davened in), Kaddish Yasom is only said by someone who is currently a chiyuv. That is within the first 11 months (an aveil) or on a yahrtzeit. Kaddish DeRabbanan can be said by anyone who has lost a parent even if he is not currently a chiyuv.


@MichaelKatz points out that there are minhagim that allow someone who has not lost a parent to say Kaddish D'Rabbanan as well. Most shuls that I have been in will have (for example) someone who has lost a parent say the Kaddish D'Rabbanan before Pesukei Dezimrah even if he is not currently in aveilus or on a yahrtzeit. I do not have the details on that.


That would be why any adult could say the kaddish at your teen minyon.


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